The Status of Radical Orthodoxy by John Milbank
Hierothee seems to attract some interesting comments in the combox. Recently he expressed his concerns over Radical Orthodoxy in general, and John Milbank in particular in that curmudgeonly manner in which he is wont to do. It happened that John Milbank happened by the combox to clarify his views, which he admits have evolved.
I took the opportunity to pass along my two cents and John was kind enough to spend some time clarifying some points. I found it very helpful and I thought that it might also be of interest to those who continue to faithfully follow our now rather occasional posts (both of you). He agreed to allow me to post our exchange. Thoughts (after reading the exchange of course)?
Dr. Milbank,
I thank you for stopping by our little blog the other day to post your clarifications to Hierothee’s post. I am interested in your Modern Theology article you mentioned in which you counter Fr. Kerr’s criticisms of JPII’s and B16’s Nuptial Mystery theology. This is a particular interest area of mine as I am working on finalizing a manuscript on JPII’s Theology of Fatherhood. Could you provide me with the issue/date of the article’s publication, or if you would be so inclined, might you send along an electronic copy of your article? I would be much obliged in either case.
As a side note: I understand the great variety of thinkers involved in RO. Nevertheless, if RO is to be a coherent (not to mention fruitful and perduring) theological movement it would seem that something so fundamental as a consistent and sound anthropology to which all in the RO school must assent should be articulated. After all, the analogia entis, which I believe RO is trying to re-appropriate into Anglican thought, infers that if you get the human person wrong then all of your theological speculation is destined to go astray. The often erroneous anthropology articulated by some in RO I think is the source of Hierothee’s reservations about the movement (at least it is mine). For what it might be worth, I would argue that articulation of a sound anthropology ought to be a major concern for RO.
With every good wish,
David H. Delaney, Ph.D. Academic Dean Mexican American Catholic College 3115 Ashby Place PO Box 28185 San Antonio, TX 78228 (210)732-2156 ext. 7147 www.maccsa.org
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Dear David Delaney,
Many thanks for your email. RO isn’t a movement that demands ‘assent’ to a list of propositions. In my view that should be for Church bodies alone. It’s a loosely defined ethos, tendency and network, close to several other tendencies and to more specifically defined movements: to Communio, the JP II Institutes, Communio e Liberazione, Focolare (beginning a little), Russian sophiologists and to the entire nouvelle theologie legacy.
RO does not see itself as an Anglican movement, but as an ecumenically Catholic movement that includes Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, and some ‘post-Protestants’ in the Protestant communions.
Anthropology is crucial as you rightly say. I suppose though that theologians might agree in general about human nature and its relation to God and still disagree about questions of gender and sexuality — even though there is an intimate link.
On the latter front, as on some others, I would say that RO has evolved and that currently it is somewhat more ‘conservative’ than it was at the outset. This applies both to a shift in perspective on the part of individuals and the arrival of younger more emphatic people plus the falling-away of some of the first batch who have moved towards a more liberal position. Others of that same batch remain highly sympathetic to RO in many, or even most ways, while being critical in others.
If this helps, I would say that perhaps the most crucial RO-leaning authors are now John Milbank, Catherine Pickstock, Conor Cunningham, Simon Oliver, Adrian Pabst, Phillip Blond, Aaron Riches, Andrew Davison, Michael Hanby, Robert Miner, Peter Chandler, John Montag, Anthony Baker, Alessandra Gerolin, John Hughes, Matt Bullimore, Angel Mendez OP and John Betz — along with many other emerging names in the UK and elsewhere. (If I’ve left someone out here inadvertently, then apologies.) But there are several others who would not formally identify with the movement but are very close to it indeed and very supportive of it.
Of the above names, six are Catholics, one is Eastern Orthodox and eight are Anglicans of which three are likely to become Catholics in the future. (This does not at present include me.) The ecumenicity is therefore reflected in personnel as well as in theory.
In terms of my own positions re gender and sexuality I suspect that some Catholics would find me a shade too liberal, but in terms of contemporary positions I would be classed as extremely ‘conservative’: against abortion, experiments on foeteses, against any idea that homosexuality can be the subject of equal rights, in favour of the importance of sexual difference, critical of liberal feminism, and holding the opinion that the separation of sex and procreation is in effect a state capitalist programme of bioethical tyranny etc etc. To my mind the Papacy is the crucial bulwark against this, even if I favour married clergy, ordaining women (my wife is an Anglican priest who is at least as conservative as the current Pope in most ways) and recognising gay civil partnerships (though certainly not gay marriage, which I regard as ontologically impossible — I also think that civil partnerships not linked to sex should be included for reasons of inheritance etc.) Some within RO are more conservative than me on these points.
In more general terms RO represents a desire for a rethought metaphysical realism — linking Thomism to the French Spiritual realist tradition — Biran, Ravaisson, Bergson, Blondel, Lavalle, Bruaire etc. This is what a more philosophical version of the nouvelle theologie needs I think and many on the continent like Emmanuel Tourpe agree. It also of course supports Lubac’s position on the supernatural and reads this in a radical way that favours an integralism of philosophy and theology and of the social and the spiritual in the the practical arena. The Anglicans amongst is also think that the deeper currents in Richard Hooker’s thought go in this direction.
Politically an originally Christian socialist direction has evolved into a post right versus left associationism/communitarianism that stresses civil society and civil economy against both the state and the agnostic capitalist market. In the UK Blond and myself are seen by British Catholics as the best interpreters and supporters of Caritas in Veritate even though we both Anglicans. The CoTP at Nottingham has links to Blond’s thinktank Respublica and Pabst’s embryo organisation Cosmopolis.
I hope that all the above is of some interest and use to you in assessing what is going on here!
All best wishes,
John Milbank
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