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November 28, 2007

objectively disordered

Filed under: Dissent, SSA Disorder — shelray @ 12:08 pm

Many of us should know who Father Leo Tibesar is by now and judging by the tone and content of his homily, there leaves little doubt as to the extent of damage which can occur when the rebellious priests of the world are left to their own devices. Sex and gender confusion gone wild, yet again, is the divisive issue evoking yet another priest to lead his parishioners down the path of spiritual destruction.

I think what disturbs me most is the means by which Fr. Tibesar is going about establishing his own kingdom come. As stated on his parish’s website, he blatantly accuses the Vatican of teaching that the “homosexual persons” themselves are “objectively disordered”, vs. the truth of homosexual tendencies being objectively disordered - there’s a huge difference, between a human person and a disordered tendency. Although, this text may be next to impossible to understand or to be believed by those of us who can’t help but place a value on others based solely on how much we like them or by how they make us feel. So often indicative of one’s state in life, Fr. Tibesar’s homily was cold and void of any message of hope, love or forgiveness; projecting instead a message of disobedience, anger and defeat.

It’s one thing to love, accept and minister to persons with SSAD according to the wisdom of the Church, but it’s quite another to “marry” them - according to the parish website - Fr. Tibesar Publicly blesses the relationships of a same sex couples after the couple completes a process of discernment similar to that completed by heterosexual couples before marriage (although it claims it is not being done at this time). Among other commitments of reconciliation towards the GLBT community, the parish has a “gay/lesbian” perspective in catechesis at all levels, including elementary school age. They also are working towards the acceptance of qualified, openly “gay or lesbian” priests or lay ministers. As probably predictable at this point, instead of links to Courage and other resources to support parishioners and others with SSAD, there are links on the parish website with such fitting names as GenderBlur which promote and attempt to legitimize the SSAD lifestyle.

May God bless ALL of our priests.

Credits: Image and Links - St. Frances Cabrini Website

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6 Comments »

  1. I think perhaps the scariest line on the page you linked to was this…

    “Include a gay/lesbian perspective in catechesis at all levels, including elementary school age;”

    It’s one thing to choose to not follow the teachings of the Church yourself. Quite another to lead children of all ages to follow you in your sin.

    Comment by mary martha — November 28, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

  2. I don’t even want to see his parish’s site, frankly. Yes, the Church clearly distinguishes between persons and tendencies, not to mention the fact that (as Dreadnought frequently points out), “objectively disordered” is used in a Thomistic/natural-law sense, not in a Jungian/psychiatric sense. Why is this so hard to understand?

    With our bishop’s blessing, I am working with a married couple in my town to start a Courage chapter here. We contacted our four local parishes for a bulletin announcement. Two wouldn’t post it; my own did very reluctantly. The fourth (the couple’s) parish printed it, but the pastor was told by someone on his parish council to remove it, because he claimed that merely by advertising Courage, the parish could get sued and lose its tax-exempt status. Not in the U.S., not yet anyway. Unfortunately, the pastor caved.

    Off to find a novena to the Cure d’Ars…

    Comment by franksta — November 29, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

  3. Where is the Bishop of Minneapolis/St. Paul in all of this pig-mud?

    Comment by Marc — November 29, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

  4. Marc,

    ArchBishop Flynn will soon retire and be replaced by Arch Bishop Nienstedt. Hit first link of the post to see why the priest said what he did.

    Comment by shelray — November 30, 2007 @ 5:44 am

  5. Good.
    Thanks Shelray for directing me to the link. I’ll be more dilegent next time to read all the links.

    Comment by Marc — November 30, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

  6. [...] announced that after meeting with Archbishop Flynn, the controversial priest from Saint Frances Cabrini Parish, Father Leo Tibesar, has agreed to remove from the parish website “any language from the St. [...]

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