Comments on: Scientism: The Demise of Common Sense http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/ Now This Is The Real World! Where Theology and Real Life Meet. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:09:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: David http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-475311 David Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:21:47 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-475311 Kathleen, Of course, in pointing out major issues we can fail to contextualize the issue. Though I don't think that I went so far as to say that as a group that psychiatrists were evil. Though, I do think that it is accurate that unless they bring their own world view to the practice and use it to counter their medical formation, they will be formed to be materialist and scientistic in worldview. Again, while I didn't exactly completely dismiss the validity of the field of psychiatry, I suppose that neither did I give an indication that there are a lot of good ones, nor did I suggest that in situations in which proper treatment might be with meds even improper views of the human person may not be as problematic. This is for the simple reason that I do not know how to best contextualize the problem. Thus, I ended up suggesting that if the doc is willing to try to incorporate a Catholic view of the human person into his treatment that this ought to be a good indicator of his view and if he is not, then it might be best to find someone else. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. I would first seek a Catholic practitioner who integrates the faith into his practice, then a Christian who does the same, then I would be more careful depending upon the specific issue to be treated. However, I would not recommend not seeking treatment simply because a good Catholic practitioner is not available. Kathleen,

Of course, in pointing out major issues we can fail to contextualize the issue. Though I don’t think that I went so far as to say that as a group that psychiatrists were evil. Though, I do think that it is accurate that unless they bring their own world view to the practice and use it to counter their medical formation, they will be formed to be materialist and scientistic in worldview.

Again, while I didn’t exactly completely dismiss the validity of the field of psychiatry, I suppose that neither did I give an indication that there are a lot of good ones, nor did I suggest that in situations in which proper treatment might be with meds even improper views of the human person may not be as problematic. This is for the simple reason that I do not know how to best contextualize the problem. Thus, I ended up suggesting that if the doc is willing to try to incorporate a Catholic view of the human person into his treatment that this ought to be a good indicator of his view and if he is not, then it might be best to find someone else.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. I would first seek a Catholic practitioner who integrates the faith into his practice, then a Christian who does the same, then I would be more careful depending upon the specific issue to be treated. However, I would not recommend not seeking treatment simply because a good Catholic practitioner is not available.

]]> By: Kathleen Lundquist http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-474485 Kathleen Lundquist Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:31:16 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-474485 I appreciate your attention to this subject, but I feel the need to add that although the prevailing culture and APA leadership are pretty much suckered in by scientism as yoy say, there are a lot of good Catholic, Christian, and other "do-no-harm", "common sense" psychiatrists and psychologists out there, doing good work for people. My father retired in 2002 after practicing psychiatry for 35 years. He has walked with Christ (as a Presbyterian) since he was 18. He has a discernment regarding human nature that was and still is uncanny. The doctor who treats my brother for worsening schizophrenia is also a good guy (don't know his worldvie) who knows his stuff, manages my brother's medication well, and keeps us informed as to his progress or any concerns. All that to say, please don't give folks the impression that anyone working in a secular venue bearing the title "psychiatrist" = "evil stupid materialist scientist who will bring you down to their level of hell." Yes, all the corruption you noted exists - but it's still a vaild field of scientific endeavor that yields good fruit when practiced by folks who respect human nature. Peace of Christ, Kathleen I appreciate your attention to this subject, but I feel the need to add that although the prevailing culture and APA leadership are pretty much suckered in by scientism as yoy say, there are a lot of good Catholic, Christian, and other “do-no-harm”, “common sense” psychiatrists and psychologists out there, doing good work for people.

My father retired in 2002 after practicing psychiatry for 35 years. He has walked with Christ (as a Presbyterian) since he was 18. He has a discernment regarding human nature that was and still is uncanny.

The doctor who treats my brother for worsening schizophrenia is also a good guy (don’t know his worldvie) who knows his stuff, manages my brother’s medication well, and keeps us informed as to his progress or any concerns.

All that to say, please don’t give folks the impression that anyone working in a secular venue bearing the title “psychiatrist” = “evil stupid materialist scientist who will bring you down to their level of hell.” Yes, all the corruption you noted exists - but it’s still a vaild field of scientific endeavor that yields good fruit when practiced by folks who respect human nature.

Peace of Christ, Kathleen

]]> By: Christopher http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-471372 Christopher Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:02:12 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-471372 I applaud your courage and heart! It takes a lot to admit to others (even anonymously) this type of struggle. You are not alone!! People convince themselves that they are alone in their struggles. Many men suffer from this addiction to pornography. You are not alone. Responsibly shedding light on the subject is the only way recover. Be careful who you share with, but, do find some help. Counseling and the sacraments are a great combination to help this journey. Good luck & my prayers are with you. Chris I applaud your courage and heart! It takes a lot to admit to others (even anonymously) this type of struggle. You are not alone!! People convince themselves that they are alone in their struggles. Many men suffer from this addiction to pornography. You are not alone. Responsibly shedding light on the subject is the only way recover. Be careful who you share with, but, do find some help. Counseling and the sacraments are a great combination to help this journey. Good luck & my prayers are with you.

Chris

]]> By: Cosmos-Liturgy-Sex » Death of Common Sense Reprise http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-471238 Cosmos-Liturgy-Sex » Death of Common Sense Reprise Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:11:55 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-471238 [...] Note to self…no matter how badly you need to see your sports rehab specialist, do Not try to drive from Waco to San Antonio through Ft. Hood and Marble Falls in the afternoon, become evening, the day before Thanksgiving. Twelve hours round trip when it should have taken eight.  Now, with the whining out of the way, I would like to add a couple more thoughts to yesterday’s post. [...] [...] Note to self…no matter how badly you need to see your sports rehab specialist, do Not try to drive from Waco to San Antonio through Ft. Hood and Marble Falls in the afternoon, become evening, the day before Thanksgiving. Twelve hours round trip when it should have taken eight.  Now, with the whining out of the way, I would like to add a couple more thoughts to yesterday’s post. [...]

]]> By: David http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-471134 David Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:35:58 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-471134 Anon - Thanks for sharing that. I will say a prayer that you find someone who can help you. I don't know if you are Catholic or not, but the Sacraments are the only direct source of the superhuman strength you need to help overcome the albatross that your abuse helped to burden you with. God bless you! Anon -

Thanks for sharing that. I will say a prayer that you find someone who can help you. I don’t know if you are Catholic or not, but the Sacraments are the only direct source of the superhuman strength you need to help overcome the albatross that your abuse helped to burden you with. God bless you!

]]> By: Anon for a reason http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-470979 Anon for a reason Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:58:41 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-470979 I was turned on to porn when I was 12 by the guy who wound up molesting me. Imagine that! A pedophile in the Big Brother program. Anyway, that addiction combined with the molestation has been the curse of my existence. I still struggle with the porn addiction. even 30 years later. I've never been married, nor can I look at women as simply that, women. Maybe I should have done this long ago, but it's time for counseling. Some of these educated idiots do more harm than good by being afraid to call a spade a spade. I was turned on to porn when I was 12 by the guy who wound up molesting me. Imagine that! A pedophile in the Big Brother program.
Anyway, that addiction combined with the molestation has been the curse of my existence. I still struggle with the porn addiction. even 30 years later. I’ve never been married, nor can I look at women as simply that, women. Maybe I should have done this long ago, but it’s time for counseling. Some of these educated idiots do more harm than good by being afraid to call a spade a spade.

]]> By: Michael Hichborn http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-470463 Michael Hichborn Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:16:38 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/11/20/scientism-the-demise-of-common-sense/#comment-470463 Hi, My name is Michael Hichborn, and I'm the media director for American Life League. I noticed that you have posted articles from us before in the past, and I was wondering if we could send out video releases to you for posting on your blog. I have recently established a regular webcast for American Life League, and I would be most honored if you would share it with your readers as they come out (every 2 weeks). If you are interested in this, please e-mail me at mhichborn@all.org. Thanks, and God bless! --Michael Hi,
My name is Michael Hichborn, and I’m the media director for American Life League. I noticed that you have posted articles from us before in the past, and I was wondering if we could send out video releases to you for posting on your blog. I have recently established a regular webcast for American Life League, and I would be most honored if you would share it with your readers as they come out (every 2 weeks). If you are interested in this, please e-mail me at mhichborn@all.org.
Thanks, and God bless!
–Michael

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