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	<title>Comments on: Americanist Philosophy Seems to Have Won Out</title>
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	<description>Now This Is The Real World! Where Theology and Real Life Meet.</description>
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		<title>By: dad29</title>
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		<dc:creator>dad29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.

Bp Henni had a real problem beyond what you mentioned.  "Retaining the culture" of the Germans and Poles inevitably meant retaining a culture which was far more Socialist than perhaps he wanted.  The Guilds were influential overseas, and Milwaukee became a Union Town, encompassing a very large Catholic labor population.

Ultimately this was almost a disaster, as the Communist infiltration of the CIO/UAW led to sabotage at the Allis-Chalmers plant (which was making war materiel.)

Ultimately, (IIRC) George Meany cleaned out the CIO and merged it into the AFL.  Meany was a very Catholic guy...

The German influence also had its effect on the liturgy in Milwaukee.  Henni imported a fellow named Singenberger (via Cincinnatti) to Milwaukee.  Singenberger's training was taken in Regensburg under the influence of the Liturgy Reform movement.  As a result, Milwaukee was quite 'progressive' liturgically (but always within the guidelines of Rome.)  Milwaukee was one of the few Dioceses which allowed and encouraged the "Dialog Mass," really the pre-cursor of the Pauline Rite in many ways.

Of course, Jos. Ratzinger was ALSO a Regensburg guy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.</p>
<p>Bp Henni had a real problem beyond what you mentioned.  &#8220;Retaining the culture&#8221; of the Germans and Poles inevitably meant retaining a culture which was far more Socialist than perhaps he wanted.  The Guilds were influential overseas, and Milwaukee became a Union Town, encompassing a very large Catholic labor population.</p>
<p>Ultimately this was almost a disaster, as the Communist infiltration of the CIO/UAW led to sabotage at the Allis-Chalmers plant (which was making war materiel.)</p>
<p>Ultimately, (IIRC) George Meany cleaned out the CIO and merged it into the AFL.  Meany was a very Catholic guy&#8230;</p>
<p>The German influence also had its effect on the liturgy in Milwaukee.  Henni imported a fellow named Singenberger (via Cincinnatti) to Milwaukee.  Singenberger&#8217;s training was taken in Regensburg under the influence of the Liturgy Reform movement.  As a result, Milwaukee was quite &#8216;progressive&#8217; liturgically (but always within the guidelines of Rome.)  Milwaukee was one of the few Dioceses which allowed and encouraged the &#8220;Dialog Mass,&#8221; really the pre-cursor of the Pauline Rite in many ways.</p>
<p>Of course, Jos. Ratzinger was ALSO a Regensburg guy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Jackie Parkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Jackie Parkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do like my american bloggers &#38; friends though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do like my american bloggers &amp; friends though!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord, have mercy if I were to see myself as American first and Catholic second. The only upshot to this is that the "real" Catholics are still having children, and they shall overcome someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord, have mercy if I were to see myself as American first and Catholic second. The only upshot to this is that the &#8220;real&#8221; Catholics are still having children, and they shall overcome someday.</p>
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		<title>By: monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that's why, I think, there's a lot of pastoral wisdom behind the instituting the feast of "Christ the King".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s why, I think, there&#8217;s a lot of pastoral wisdom behind the instituting the feast of &#8220;Christ the King&#8221;.</p>
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