Comments on: Well, Spit. http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/ Now This Is The Real World! Where Theology and Real Life Meet. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:08:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: David http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254817 David Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:57:41 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254817 Very good point Shawn--thanks! Very good point Shawn–thanks!

]]> By: Shawn Reeves http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254644 Shawn Reeves Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:02:53 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254644 "that sort of exclusionary theology ensures that many, many people - people who are starved for spiritual nourishment - are going to turn their backs on churches and church politics and say, 'No way. I refuse to be involved in any church that tells me I’m not good enough.'" hmmm... " The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." (Mark 1:15) "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish." (Luke 13:3; 13:5) "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matt 5:48) " Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:38) It sure doesn't sound like Jesus or the Apostles ever told anyone, "hey, don't worry about it - I'm ok with you the way you are." That's kind of the point of the whole gospel - we desperately need grace to transform us throughout our whole lives because none of us are what we ought to be. Certainly, if any of us were "good enough" we would have no need of a church at all (or God for that matter). It's unfortunate that Ms. Stanley is either unaware of these passages or practices eisegesis when reading them. Then again, I don't have that "be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect" thing mastered yet either. pax “that sort of exclusionary theology ensures that many, many people - people who are starved for spiritual nourishment - are going to turn their backs on churches and church politics and say, ‘No way. I refuse to be involved in any church that tells me I’m not good enough.’”

hmmm…
” The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

“I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3; 13:5)

“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Matt 5:48)

” Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 2:38)

It sure doesn’t sound like Jesus or the Apostles ever told anyone, “hey, don’t worry about it - I’m ok with you the way you are.” That’s kind of the point of the whole gospel - we desperately need grace to transform us throughout our whole lives because none of us are what we ought to be. Certainly, if any of us were “good enough” we would have no need of a church at all (or God for that matter). It’s unfortunate that Ms. Stanley is either unaware of these passages or practices eisegesis when reading them. Then again, I don’t have that “be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect” thing mastered yet either.

pax

]]> By: David http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254182 David Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:59:54 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254182 Elizabeth - Thanks for the comment. No, I did not think about sending it to StarOnline. I am honored that you think that it might be worth sharing with them. I am very glad that it helped. Elizabeth -

Thanks for the comment. No, I did not think about sending it to StarOnline. I am honored that you think that it might be worth sharing with them. I am very glad that it helped.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254038 Elizabeth Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:29:44 +0000 http://cosmos-liturgy-sex.com/2007/08/04/well-spit/#comment-254038 Did you send this along to the StarOnline site? So glad to see your take on her rant. It really helps me sort out the inconsistencies and cement my belief in the One Holy Catholic Church. Thank you. Did you send this along to the StarOnline site? So glad to see your take on her rant. It really helps me sort out the inconsistencies and cement my belief in the One Holy Catholic Church. Thank you.

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