Sex Embryonic-Fetal and Post-Natal Animal-Human (Chimera) Mixtures
THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF AN ART SCULPTURE – IT IS NOT REAL
Scientists are combining real animal and human embryonic material together to create a hybrid called “chimeras” which are to be used in scientific research. The U.K. has not yet banned it’s practice, and some see chimeras as a solution in adressing the shortage of human sex embryos available for medical research. Some scientists, which have no ethical reservations in practicing with what they feel is an effective substitute for their work on stem cells that could potentially offer new treatments for diseases. The use and creation of chimeras is currently illegal in France and Germany. Thanks to Lifesite for the link to, A monster Created in Man’s Image – Debating the Ethics of Chimeras.
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That picture frightens me.
Comment by Tammy Haga — August 11, 2006 @ 7:16 AM
OH come on. That HAS TO be an edited photo?
DS
Comment by Dan — August 11, 2006 @ 10:15 AM
I’m with Dan on this one. No chimeras have been created that look like the picture there, some have been created that have small morphological changes, but nothing that drastic. The picture reminds me of the “Ripley clones” in the 4th Alien movie.
Comment by Bill — August 11, 2006 @ 11:11 AM
I don\’t think that Shelray was trying to imply with his graphic that this particular chimera had been created. Rather, it was using the sculpture by Patricia Piccinini to illustrate the dangers of science without ethics. Here is a description of the graphic.
Comment by David — August 11, 2006 @ 11:38 AM
Ah. Didn’t see a link to that (or explanation) in the original post. The situation depicted there is still mere fantasy, thankfully.
Comment by Bill — August 11, 2006 @ 12:51 PM
If that photograph is real it scares me to think of how far these scientists will go to perform something for no aparaent reason. What will putting a human and an animal together cause but chaos and torture. Why would they even want to put something or techinically someone (since it is mixed with human) through such tortures. What can they do to it when they’re done experimenting on it but terminate it’s life. If it does lead to such measures they should all be incarcerated for their rediculous and fruitless theories.
Comment by Natifah — December 7, 2006 @ 1:35 PM
Natifah,
The photograph is actually a sculpture . The alleged motivation behind combining human and animal DNA is to accelerate embryonic stem cell research and have an endless supply of cells in order to perform their own diabolical research.
Comment by shelray — December 7, 2006 @ 2:03 PM
[...] Re: What the…??? Droded was right about the Art part. Here’s two links to where it’s information is located. Strange Photo of Animal-Human Hybrid Sex Embryonic-Fetal and Post-Natal Animal-Human (Chimera) Mixtures [...]
Pingback by What the...??? - Tavern Cellar — February 18, 2007 @ 12:15 PM
I seriously thought this was an actually Chimera. Thank goodness I saw the link before I started jumping into conclusions. I can help but to feel that the idea of combining two species’ embroyo is disatrously wrong.
I may be just thirteen, but I’m sure people younger than I am can tell that this idea is a mistake. A cool experiment, but a mistake. The so-called “experts and scientists” may be trying to improve our lives, but at what cost? An obvious mutation and probably a death of a couple thousanad embroyos. They should just leave everything alone.
Comment by Elaine — April 3, 2007 @ 6:31 PM
this is deffinitly the most messed up &*%$ i have ever witnessed in my whole entire life i almost #$@& my pants when i saw it
Comment by sally — April 6, 2007 @ 11:00 PM
THIS IS SICK AND IF YOU DONT STOP THIS THEN I WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by rebecca — April 14, 2007 @ 10:56 AM
HI ME AGAIN YOU HAVE 2 DAYS TO STOP ALL TESTING OR I SWEAR TO GOD YOU WILL BE SORRY AND I THINK ALMOST EVERY ONE WILL BACK ME UP. SO EVERYONE IF YOU WANT TO BACK ME UP LEAVE A COMMENT SAYING “I” AND WE WILL STOP THESE SICK BXXXXXXX ONCE AND FOR ALL! THIS IS NO JOKE!
Comment by REBECCA — April 14, 2007 @ 11:02 AM
HI ME AGAIN YOU HAVE 2 DAYS TO STOP ALL TESTING OR I SWEAR TO GOD YOU WILL BE SORRY AND I THINK ALMOST EVERY ONE WILL BACK ME UP. SO EVERYONE IF YOU WANT TO BACK ME UP LEAVE A COMMENT SAYING “I”AND WE WILL STOP THESE SICK BXXXXXXX ONCE AND FOR ALL!THIS IS NO JOKE!
Comment by Becky — April 14, 2007 @ 11:04 AM
Lets get real guys. Looking at this from a purely logistical viewpoint, it would be much simpler and less labor and money intensive to use a primate for an experiment like this. Ignoring all the talk about right and wrong, the barriers that keep humans and dogs from making “Pups” would make it a huge challenge for a lab to mix these species. If anyone wanted to cross that line, it would probably be with a species closer to our own. The risius monkey, at least shares a protien with some humans. That protien is indicated by the + or – in your blood type. If you were to attempt a cross species mix, I’d start with somthing with wich we share a few biochemical traits.
Comment by John — April 25, 2007 @ 10:13 AM
John,
the picture should be considered a type of imagery hyperbole to reflect how strongly we are opposed to the mixing of human and animals cells. I apologize if it was misleading.
Comment by shelray — April 25, 2007 @ 10:39 AM
Shelray,
I understood the intent. I was addressing those who were getting really upset. I wonder if things like using animals for transplant donors upsets them as much.
Comment by John — April 25, 2007 @ 11:27 AM
More people please!
We need more people to agree this is wrong!
The more people the better!
O and by the way this picture is ugly anyways!
So what was the reason they want to do these testings anyway!
To make ugly creatures that were not even meant to be!
Is this costing us any money by any chance?
Comment by i agree with me — May 14, 2007 @ 7:16 PM
can i just say children look at people who are diformed and dont understand why and bully them now if this were to become a living species i believe that children and adults would bully it and why are these people trying to play god when they are not god?
Comment by craig — May 28, 2007 @ 3:02 PM
what…a bunch of morons….this is just a [expletive deleted] sculpture, nothing more. It was just someone’s concept of a half animal/half human big whoopty doo. God people in this world are so freakin picky!! judging every time some one [expletive deleted] blinks. I personally believe its an interesting concept. And if they really did do animal/human joining, maybe humans would smarten up and treat creatures with better dignity then they do now!
There aint no god. if there was he probably left because it was his creation that ruined his whole idea of a perfect civilation.
If you want to debate with me, contact me at Lone_wolf_eyes@hotmail.com
im always up for a good debate.
Comment by Amanda — June 1, 2007 @ 5:58 AM
Amanda -
With your beginning statement it would seem that intellectual debate is not what you have in mind.
There are many strains of vague thinking manifested in your short response (e.g. an apparently confused use of the term “judging”) but rather than point them all out perhaps selecting just one would do.
Since you seem to be dogmatically confident in your world view, perhaps you might demonstrate how you are able to support the (grammatically incorrect) negative universal assertion that “There aint no [G]od.” Negative universals are generally impossible to support. This is especially true when it comes to the claims of militant atheists as the pseudo-intellectual flailings of such dogmatists as Dawkins, Dennet, and Hitchens ably demonstrate. I am interested to hear if you might have some more rationally supportable arguments.
Comment by David — June 1, 2007 @ 7:57 AM
Does Patricia Piccanini know that you are using a photograph of her sculpture in your blog? Have you asked for permission? Paid her a royalty. I thought stealing was against the commandments … but like most of the self-righteous you seem to pick and choose only what you lile. Stealing other people’s artwork is stealing. Period.
Comment by Sick of the self-righteous — October 25, 2007 @ 2:37 PM
Sick – it is so often that we find our own faults in others isn’t it. By the way, the photographer rather than the sculptor would generally be the one who would be the permission. As I understand it, the question of fair use for non-revenue gaining, educationally focused enterprises is at play here. We used to link to the actual source of the photo as a means of providing the attribution but that was in a sense stealing bandwidth. We are not presenting any photos as our own work and we are not gaining anything monetarily for them so given the opportunities involved in fair use, we believe that we are not depriving anyone of their intellectual property.
But then, I suppose that self-righteousness can blind the best of us to the possibility of alternative explanations…
Comment by David — October 25, 2007 @ 5:22 PM
Good gracious, you people are so stupid!!! This is an ARTWORK. It is not possible to do it in reality!!!!!!!! There are LAWS forbidding anything like this. How can so many people be SO STUPID. You should REALLY reconsider who you are and what is the difference between you and the ‘thing’ in the picture, because obviously it’s not in intelligence…
Comment by Veronika — December 4, 2007 @ 2:46 PM
Veronika -
The article was not about the picture. The picture was simply an artistic illustration. By the way, there are no international laws and local national laws against man-animal cloning, are threatened at best.
Whether something like this is even possible, who knows…it certainly is not in the immediate future. However, this illustration is simply used to show that regardless of whether something like this could be developed, experimenting with human-animal chimeras even at the cellular level is abominable.
Finally, I should say a word about your approach to discourse. It is severely lacking. First of all, I am not sure if stupidity is manifested by the inability to read but if so, you may be saying more than you wish. Also, I will warn you that next time we will not edit your comments to remove offensive language so unless you enjoy spending time writing comments that no one will ever see, then I would suggest learning to employ a bit more sophistication in your prose.
Comment by David — December 5, 2007 @ 10:12 AM
my comment is that i dont think that any living thing should have to go through the torture of living like that and i think that it should be illegal to practice things like this on ppl and living creatures sure its cool to look at but think would you like to be out in the open with everyone staring at you calling you a monster they have feelings 2 just like any living thing so just put yourself in there shoes
-a person who knows what shes talking about…….SERIOUSLY i hate to see the hate and torture in this world. dont you see that these inventions and this behavior can lead to the world to an end whoever did this should be punished or transformed into something hidious so that they can learn there lesson in life not to mess with nature
Comment by ariel stein — December 6, 2007 @ 10:23 AM
i think that ariel is right ppl shouldnt do these kind of things and she is right that whoever did this should pay and i hope this picture isnt real cuz i would hate to think that anyone in this world even scientists would have the heart to do that
—-from someone that cares about the world
Comment by karleigh doolittle — December 6, 2007 @ 10:27 AM
i hate the world ppl shouldnt do this and whoever did this should pay for there mistake!!!!!
Comment by karleigh doolittle — December 6, 2007 @ 10:29 AM
i think that ppl are real stupid dont u think that this poor creature has feelings how would you like it if you were out in the open and public for all ppl to watch your every move be afraid of you and call you a monster this kind of behavior can lead the world to end.
______from someone who knows what shes talking about……SERIOUSLY put yourself in this creatures shoes it has feelings and how do you think its feeling right now?? it looks pretty unhappy to me i protest against this kind of behavior im 16 but i know what i am talking about your all ppl with no heart and no feelings!!!!!
Comment by ariel stein — December 6, 2007 @ 10:34 AM
Ariel and Karleigh -
Please read a little more closely and Ariel watch the language that you use. This is a picture of an artist’s depiction of a chimera. There is no possibility right now of something like this being created. It was used as a graphic illustration of what is actually being done when scientists combine animal and human DNA, even if the resulting being is not allowed to fully mature.
You will also see that we are not advocating that this be done; rather we are warning against it. In other words, we agree with your sentiments.
Finally, I would recommend that proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation are not optional in written communication. When trying to communicate ideas and enter into dialogue and your intention is to convince those with whom you disagree, appealing to the way it makes you feel, threatening to disfigure others into something hideous, etc. are not effective methods for anything more than starting a heated argument.
Those who would do these types of things will immediately dismiss you. When you say that you know what you are talking about, they will take you more seriously if you do some research in order to express yourself in their language, provide a reasoned argument (with restrained emotions, though it need not be completely unemotional), in grammatically correct writing, devoid of vulgar language.
I commend you both at 16 years of age, for caring enough to take the time to respond. Perhaps in the future, you can practice with methods that would be more effective in promoting your point of view.
Comment by David — December 6, 2007 @ 11:22 AM
Wow, A real Canine/Human would look way better than that. You can make a sculpture look like anything but if it could really be done (Which I don’t doubt it can be done) then it would be nearly perfect in every way.
Comment by Brandon "WILDWULF" M.V. — December 23, 2007 @ 10:02 PM
Its a scuplture get over it.
Comment by Larry — January 9, 2008 @ 10:33 AM
I do not believe this is right, but it is in fact, a sculpture. A sculpture of an artist’s take on a chimera, a mythylogical beast. Regardless of the moral obligations and ethical codes, you should look at it for what it is. A perception. Perception is NOT reality and everyone has their own. Ariel, I believe you are absolutley correct. But can I ask you this, do you believe abortion is wrong? If we are to spare all ‘disfigured’ creatures from life in a creul world, what would you say to all mothers who have born into this world, a child with Down Syndrome. Many believe they are disfigured, many choose to torment them, and yet you most likely would not advocate aborting this child’s life based on the sole fact of a hard road ahead, would you?
As far as these people being heartless and creul, that is slightly rediculous from my point of view. It is purely my opinion that if someone is attempting to be logical and actually have coherent thoughts voiced properly, it is a brilliant idea to shove emotion to the side and think on a purley intellectual basis.
Comment by Chrissy — January 16, 2008 @ 9:54 PM
Oh if only this were possible it would be a dream come true!
Just imagine the possibilities!
I will be doing this some day go ahead and try to stop me XD
I honestly don’t care what other people think about this and I will try to make it a reality.
This is amazing
I cannot wait for the future
Comment by Jin — January 21, 2008 @ 1:50 AM
so this does happen?
how ?
why ?
what has the outcome been previously?
Comment by leona — January 28, 2008 @ 8:10 AM
ok. i do believe that this is real but who would do such a thing like this. This is very inappropiate. all the scientists is trying do is get rich, come on now not like that. this is very discussting ok. they should go to jail. watch when a police or judge or sumtihn find this on there somebody going to court an it gone be me of coarse.
Comment by keke — March 22, 2008 @ 11:34 AM
How can you think this is a bad thing?
This is amazing! I’d kill to be able to make tests like this. So some may say thats crazy but it’s still amazing just think of the possibilities! I just don’t see why so many people see this as a bad thing =[ Someone please explain -.-”
Comment by Jin — March 22, 2008 @ 12:54 PM
Goodness gracious me. There is a lot of overreacting going on over here… and the majority of the overreaction is caused by people forgetting to take into account that the creature in this photo is not a real chimera. It is simply an artistic illustration of what could happen if science progresses without ethics.
In reality, chimeras are created so that they can be used as organ donors; they are not made on a mere whim, no experimentation just for the sake of experimentation. In real life, cellular changes in chimeras are minimal, and the animal itself doesn’t even know the difference between itself and a “normal” animal. I could go into the ethics of using animals as human organ donors, but I think that that would just get me off topic, so I’ll suppose I’ll just leave you to ponder.
Comment by Dylan — April 4, 2008 @ 2:49 AM
Oh, and Keke:
First of all, this is not a real chimera, as I have already stated. But in addition, do you have anything to back you up when you say that “all the scientists [are] trying do is get rich”? Science is a field that people enter when they want to help improve and increase understanding of the world, as well as ameliorate the quality of life on earth. Even if this was a real chimera, there would no doubt be a practical explanation for its creation. Scientists want to do good, not bad.
Comment by Dylan — April 4, 2008 @ 3:00 AM
Perspective from a scientist in a molecular lab. Things are never black and white, the technology to create chimeras is like any other technology, devoid of inherent good or evil, it’s what we do with it that matters. For example, all insulin used to treat diabetes nowadays is a product of a chimera (the human insulin gene inserted into a bacteria for reproduction). Pig used to be used, but some a small percentage of people had reactions to the pig insulin. (pig insulin is identical to most human insulin, but not all).
sincerely,
targettee
Comment by targettee — April 27, 2008 @ 9:06 PM
Karleigh and Justin,
The comments are open for dialog, debate, and discussion. Ranting and emoting would be best taken elsewhere.
Justin – you had elements of a reasonable argument buried in one of your rants. If you would like to engage in a discussion about the problem of the existence of God in the midst of suffering and evil that would be fine. However, it will have to take place in a mature manner.
One thing I will note in reference to this, one does not prove God’s no- existence by pointing to a world which is not in accord with they way one would like to see it. One simply has demonstrated that one’s limited conception of God is incorrect.
Comment by David — May 1, 2008 @ 8:38 PM
Dan and Bill did you
read where it says not real?
it is FAKE. Its what they
think Human/Dogs will look
like.
Comment by Kayla C. — May 5, 2008 @ 10:22 AM
this is so unreal duh!
Comment by stephanie hanslo — May 8, 2008 @ 10:07 AM
Dear Sir,
This is very Best Art & Article
Comment by Umesh — May 11, 2008 @ 2:03 PM
this picture definatley frightens me…. and it isn’t right that people would even CONSIDER DOING THIS TO REAL LIVING THINGS, i mean they arent meant to be like that, i understand that even if an animal was deformed or something i would still love it but if it were the doings of a human being i would just hate the people who did it. if cloning is going to happen then let it be like Dolly the first clone not like a chimera in this picture, even if it is fake. let them be normal like any other animal would be, not a monster that everyone will be afraid of.
SAY NO TO CLONING!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by emily — May 23, 2008 @ 12:58 PM
i’d be scared ig i see dat on a dark street
Comment by daas — June 26, 2008 @ 5:15 AM
I am so glad that is just a sculpture. I almost peed my pants when I seen it on T.V. That is just WRONG and we all know it.
I once read a fantasy book(years ago) about a version of Earth that was “Super Science”. I think the book was called “Phase” by Pierse Anthony. Anyway this world did exactly what that picture shows only the bodies were more human with the heads of animals. In the book these creatures were all SLAVES miserable and abused.
I understand the need to study heart disease,as it runs in my family but I dont think that is the right direction. I am sure it has to be against Gods law also.
Hats of to the artist though .. they obviously did a “GREAT” job. I had to jump on the net to check out this story as soon as I seen it. Sorry, but I have to laugh at everybody that thought it was real. But I am glad to see that some people have enough morals to be outraged. GOD HELP US ALL.
Comment by Tasia — July 6, 2008 @ 3:29 AM
GOD HELP US ALL.??
thats disgusting =__=”
this picture shows nothing but an artists view of what science might one day hopefully do.
I can’t wait for these things to happen in science
too many people are too religious to accept it though because oh no it goes against god x__x”
thats dumb
Comment by Jin — July 6, 2008 @ 11:21 AM
Jin there is no need to be Nasty. I didnt comment or run you down on your thoughts and opinions.
The Bizar is fascinating and I understand why you think it is so cool. Our minds love the adventure of sci-fi. I know, I am a fan.
I do not care that you think it is dumb that I believe in God. Perhaps I could say that you are dumb because you dont. But instead i will pray for you to gain wisdome,direction,love and a respectful tongue in your head. GOD BLESS YOU.
Comment by Tasia — July 6, 2008 @ 10:48 PM
Alright alright Tasia I know your right,
it’s just every single day i hear this and i’m forced to just ignore it like it doesnt bother me x__x” I guess i just read your message at the wrong time
I do respect your opinions and religions
i had a bad day when i wrote that and
… i’m sorry -__-”
…
Comment by Jin — July 8, 2008 @ 6:55 PM
Jin, I absolutly forgive you.
No problem.. I totally understand.
I have had plenty of bad days myself.
The artist did a really good job. I was surprized at how many people thought it was real.LOL. I did to at first, thats why I came on the net to check it out. All I can say is FREAKY MAN!!
Have a good day Jin. God Bless.
Comment by Tasia — July 9, 2008 @ 11:40 PM
you sthink that scientists cant do it? they have the technology. Besides, if you read the article you would know that it is a substitute for researching stem cells. I have to admit, this is a disturbing picture to see. I think that this is a real picture, however, who ever would do this to any human is a complete and utter disgrace!
Comment by Andres Carrasco — July 30, 2008 @ 12:26 PM
whoa
i dont know why but i cant look at that picture
like it seriously freaks me out
at first i thought it was real and was actually frightened, i was scared.
at least its just a sculpture but it still freaks me out.
its horrible.
not only the picture, the whole idea of mixing humans with animals.
its completely against god. its awful.
Comment by Holly — August 25, 2008 @ 7:06 AM
what do u want to prove to make experiments like this…… ??????
Comment by Umram — August 28, 2008 @ 6:46 AM
When I first saw this image, I wondered exactly how far scientists would go with their imaginations. Before I read the words that said it was a statue, I thought, “Is that a glass case? Are those people watching that chimera? I thought that once again, science has found a way to torment more and more “experiments”. Seeing that it’s a statue, I say that it is right for it to be banned.
Now, I agree with the rat and ear chimera, because it wasn’t manipulated, and it actually DID help people. I say that all though there are many things that can be questioned on whether or not it’s helpful(animal testing, DNA studies, etc.) I say that without a doubt, such a tissue manipulation is unneeded. I partly agree with Elaine. Help people… but at what cost? After you’ve made the chimera, it’s alive. Just like us.
Comment by Sharry — September 17, 2008 @ 2:26 PM
if its half animal half human….does it have a soul?
Comment by Chris — September 25, 2008 @ 7:37 PM
When you use Images of artists work you need to put a caption that credits the artist, gives the media, size and year. This is interesting and I would like to know who made it
Comment by Rene — September 26, 2008 @ 11:32 PM
Rene -
Please look at the post more closely, you will see a link to the source of the image. This may provide you with some of the information you are seeking.
By the way, the protocol for fair use simply requires crediting the image’s source, not the details that you list.
Comment by David — September 29, 2008 @ 8:31 AM
Am I the only one not disturbed by this piece? Maybe David, since he has so much to say about other’s comments.
Comment by Ashley — October 10, 2008 @ 12:02 AM
Excuse me, maybe David is not is what I meant.
Comment by Ashley — October 10, 2008 @ 12:03 AM
I think some individuals should educate themselves further on the subject if the image depicted above was indeed more aestectically pleasing while still remaining a chimera I’m sure others would feel differently I do not condone inter-species erotica however different scenarios will yield different results I also do not agree with the harvesting of eggs for the sole purpose of termination for the use of stem cell research I don’t know too much about the way of acquiring said cells but I am not against stem cell reseach as long as it’s not exploited it’s a little like playing God but that just means were evolving we might cure cancer blindness repair nerves etc.
(26 female black-Hollywood)
Comment by Symphonye B. — October 11, 2008 @ 1:13 AM
ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by jenni — October 20, 2008 @ 5:32 AM
PEOPLE SIMMER DOWN!!! For goodness sakes read about the subject matter before you join an angry mob ready to burn down a laboratory
(I’m reminded of the Simpsons lol). Nobody is actually thinking of creating such monsters as the one potrayed above!
Comment by chichi — December 13, 2008 @ 6:38 AM
XD you think no one is trying but hah trust me it’s going on. I know for a fact
Comment by Jin — December 14, 2008 @ 9:42 AM
COME ON PPL! Get it together…read the caption under it, it’s just a sculpture, not the real thing. But i agree with the people on here that thing this is wrong, because it is.
Comment by Melanie — December 15, 2008 @ 12:40 PM
I was just wanting to place my opinion on this subject out there in case anyone wanted to comment on it. Scientifically, I feel that this research and experimentation would be very interesting, however, morally I believe it is wrong not only because of my religion but also because I believe that if the people in this world can’t handle a difference of skin color, then how could they possibly handle this? By the way, I would like to praise David for his skill in being the “peace keeper”, if you will, of this page.
Comment by Fo — January 13, 2009 @ 5:07 PM