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	<title>Comments on: Sacraments and Human Nature: Part I &#8211; Introduction</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan - I hope that it will be.

Andrew - Of course there is a distinction to be made between the grace being bestowed and its fruitfulness (or lack thereof) in the recipient.

Caroline - Therein lies part of the problem.  In the Christian West, since William of Ockham rejected universals with his Nominalist cancer, human nature has been cut free from its grounding in the divine ideas.  It has been progressively floating free in the modern academy (and subsequently popular thought) and has finally reached it the point of obliteration in our post-modern world where it is has been undergoing is final deconstruction and deontologization.  I would agree that modernity/post-modernity must revisit the reality of &quot;human nature&quot; if it is to survive.  As Hierothee has mentioned here many times before, the rejection of form has led to our &lt;i&gt;techne&lt;/i&gt; obsessed culture&#039;s trajectory toward self-annihilation.  But thanks for the reminder that I need to define human nature at the outset of the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan &#8211; I hope that it will be.</p>
<p>Andrew &#8211; Of course there is a distinction to be made between the grace being bestowed and its fruitfulness (or lack thereof) in the recipient.</p>
<p>Caroline &#8211; Therein lies part of the problem.  In the Christian West, since William of Ockham rejected universals with his Nominalist cancer, human nature has been cut free from its grounding in the divine ideas.  It has been progressively floating free in the modern academy (and subsequently popular thought) and has finally reached it the point of obliteration in our post-modern world where it is has been undergoing is final deconstruction and deontologization.  I would agree that modernity/post-modernity must revisit the reality of &#8220;human nature&#8221; if it is to survive.  As Hierothee has mentioned here many times before, the rejection of form has led to our <i>techne</i> obsessed culture&#8217;s trajectory toward self-annihilation.  But thanks for the reminder that I need to define human nature at the outset of the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Hierothee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hierothee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline,

Can you be more specific?  Do you think that talk of &quot;natures&quot; is generally &quot;outmoded&quot;? Certainly, it is true, post-modern philosophy and analytic philosophy have abandoned the concept. But one can just as easily argue that they have abandoned common sense.  The concept stems from an observed reality: that you and I and all other humans share the same basic desires, desires that are specific to humanity.  The fact that we can speak of a human being as such implies that we have a common nature.  

Have you ever heard anyone define the concept?  Because, frankly, in Catholic theology it has a fairly standard meaning, with some minor variations or extrapolations.  Do you know the definition of human nature put forth in the Church&#039;s theological tradition and reject it?  If so, could you please specify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline,</p>
<p>Can you be more specific?  Do you think that talk of &#8220;natures&#8221; is generally &#8220;outmoded&#8221;? Certainly, it is true, post-modern philosophy and analytic philosophy have abandoned the concept. But one can just as easily argue that they have abandoned common sense.  The concept stems from an observed reality: that you and I and all other humans share the same basic desires, desires that are specific to humanity.  The fact that we can speak of a human being as such implies that we have a common nature.  </p>
<p>Have you ever heard anyone define the concept?  Because, frankly, in Catholic theology it has a fairly standard meaning, with some minor variations or extrapolations.  Do you know the definition of human nature put forth in the Church&#8217;s theological tradition and reject it?  If so, could you please specify?</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 13:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear this term human nature used all the time as if there were any certain definition of it and as if we all agreed on it.  Maybe the concept &quot;human nature&quot; itself needs revisiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear this term human nature used all the time as if there were any certain definition of it and as if we all agreed on it.  Maybe the concept &#8220;human nature&#8221; itself needs revisiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For these Christians, in general, the action is focused on the faith of the believer for the giving of grace&quot; --- I think this says it all. Of course you must have faith, but the question is, &quot;If the faith is lacking, do you still recieve the graces of different Sacraments, such as in Confession?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For these Christians, in general, the action is focused on the faith of the believer for the giving of grace&#8221; &#8212; I think this says it all. Of course you must have faith, but the question is, &#8220;If the faith is lacking, do you still recieve the graces of different Sacraments, such as in Confession?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Nw/Mw Grandiflora &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sacrament Series</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Nw/Mw Grandiflora &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sacrament Series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 03:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over at Cosmos-Liturgy-Sex, should be good. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 21:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait.  Very good topic to address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait.  Very good topic to address.</p>
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