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		<title>By: Hierothee</title>
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		<description>I think that Marco was pointing out something along these lines: Contemporary science is allied to huge expenditures stemming from big-business and big-government.  These expenditures are its life-blood.  Without them, it could not exist with the scope that it does.  It could not have the Ecclesiastical status that it does.  Its practicioners could not be the high-priests of the culture that they are.  That such vast resources are given to it stems, primarily, from the social conviction that two ultimate ends can and must be attained from science: 1) technology must be advanced for the service of the good of the material welfare of the state, and 2) technology must be advanced for the development of a more efficient and far-reaching exchange of goods and services.

This alliance of science, business and government is founded on the assumption that these two goals are absolute goods.  Everything in our society is oriented toward these goods and they are never questioned (except, possibly, in certain environmentalist circles, which have their own decreationist malformations).  Our educational system has as its express purpose the formation and orientation of individuals toward these two goals and these goals alone.  

Marco seems to be questioning whether these two goals are, in fact, ultimate goods.  Ian presumes, quite unreflectively, that they are.  He does not ask the question of whether, for instance, it might not be better for the state to make the primary purpose of its educational system the inculcation of character formation.  Perhaps technology, while important, is of secondary importance to this.

Moreover, Marco might want to ask, in regard to business and science, if science does not, indeed, have a hand in the vulgar consumerism of the age.

Marco's seems to be saying, in sum, that it is Ian's tendency to absolutize technological society that is problematic.  As the Patriarch of Athens said last year, to paraphrase, "We in Greece may not have the fine roads and technological niceties that Americans have, but we don't consider technology to be the sign of civilization. Rather, it is charity that marks a civilization and it is that which we strive for."

Of course, the globalization that Ian unwittingly supports will eventually run like a corrosive acid over Greece just as it has everywhere else.  If it hasn't already...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Marco was pointing out something along these lines: Contemporary science is allied to huge expenditures stemming from big-business and big-government.  These expenditures are its life-blood.  Without them, it could not exist with the scope that it does.  It could not have the Ecclesiastical status that it does.  Its practicioners could not be the high-priests of the culture that they are.  That such vast resources are given to it stems, primarily, from the social conviction that two ultimate ends can and must be attained from science: 1) technology must be advanced for the service of the good of the material welfare of the state, and 2) technology must be advanced for the development of a more efficient and far-reaching exchange of goods and services.</p>
<p>This alliance of science, business and government is founded on the assumption that these two goals are absolute goods.  Everything in our society is oriented toward these goods and they are never questioned (except, possibly, in certain environmentalist circles, which have their own decreationist malformations).  Our educational system has as its express purpose the formation and orientation of individuals toward these two goals and these goals alone.  </p>
<p>Marco seems to be questioning whether these two goals are, in fact, ultimate goods.  Ian presumes, quite unreflectively, that they are.  He does not ask the question of whether, for instance, it might not be better for the state to make the primary purpose of its educational system the inculcation of character formation.  Perhaps technology, while important, is of secondary importance to this.</p>
<p>Moreover, Marco might want to ask, in regard to business and science, if science does not, indeed, have a hand in the vulgar consumerism of the age.</p>
<p>Marco&#8217;s seems to be saying, in sum, that it is Ian&#8217;s tendency to absolutize technological society that is problematic.  As the Patriarch of Athens said last year, to paraphrase, &#8220;We in Greece may not have the fine roads and technological niceties that Americans have, but we don&#8217;t consider technology to be the sign of civilization. Rather, it is charity that marks a civilization and it is that which we strive for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, the globalization that Ian unwittingly supports will eventually run like a corrosive acid over Greece just as it has everywhere else.  If it hasn&#8217;t already&#8230;</p>
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